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  1. Derp
    Derp August 13, 2014 at 15:03 | | Reply

    This must be a sponsored post right?

    I’ve tested a bunch of X theme sites (bot the demos ad real world examples) to see what all the fuss was about and I have yet to find one that loaded quickly and didn’t feel bloated. Of course it’s easy to take the cleanest theme in the world and still find a user who will load it down with a bunch of plugins but after searching and finding a couple dozen installs, it’s hard to find one that doesn’t load like a slug.

    The simple fact is that it’s at #2 of themeforest for a reason. Not because the cream rises to the top at themeforest either.

    Now I’ll fully admit I haven’t tested X in about 6 months so they may have completely cleaned up their code but for now I’m staying as far away as possible,

    1. Chris Fella
      Chris Fella August 19, 2014 at 05:12 | | Reply

      I have to agree about the speed. The commercial themes are offering many features but are forgetting about optimising for speed. Too many render blocking Javascript and multiple CSS. The article claims it doesn’t need extra plugins then why so many separate CSS files? Google Page Speed insight score 45/100. Not great.

      1. Themeco
        Themeco August 24, 2014 at 20:12 | | Reply

        Hi Chris,

        Feel free to check out our reply on August 13 at 17:31 to a similar comment below for a more detailed answer on the first part of your comment. Separate CSS files will generally not have an effect on overall performance when organized and minified properly as we have done. Regarding demo page speeds, due to the nature of demos and how much content has to be placed on there to showcase certain features this can have a damper on overall performance, however we routinely receive comments such as this http://themeforest.net/item/x-the-theme/5871901/comments?page=13#comment_5575662 from our customers about page speed on actual sites. We also provide instructions in our Knowledge Base about some of the many user side configurations customers can do to optimize for performance as the majority of performance improvements have to do with proper on site optimizations.

        Cheers!

  2. Themeco
    Themeco August 13, 2014 at 17:31 | | Reply

    Hi Derp,

    This is not a sponsored post as the WP Mayor folks were kind enough to download the theme and check out our product and member resources for themselves, however I’d be happy to provide some feedback.

    Performance has always been of utmost importance to us – from the first line we wrote to now 🙂 As a matter of fact in our 2.2.0 version from July 15, we focused specifically in further optimizing for performance. You can read more about the specifics of that release here: http://theme.co/x/major-performance-improvements/ as well as even more detail in our forum notes for that release (in our member area). To summarize, we were able to further refine areas of X to see an average increase of 81% in backend performance and 31% on the front end. I would definitely suggest updating to the latest version of the theme and Shortcode plugin and taking some time to read through the many updates over the past 6 months on our changelog: http://theme.co/x/member/changelog/

    While we have and always will be focused on performance, there is a big misconception in the development world about what is “bloat” and subsequently what slows down a site. From a development point of view, we do everything possible to streamline the code in such a way to be as performant friendly as possible (and are always looking for ways to improve as seen in the release mentioned above). For example, certain scripts only get loaded when a Shortcode exists on your page. While other themes will load all scripts into the theme, this method keeps things streamlined. Additionally, things like custom Google Fonts are loaded dynamically, meaning that only what you plan on using is loaded into the theme, keeping it free of bloat. Other technical benefits that we include with the theme are the use of semantic HTML5 markup throughout the theme, industry standard SEO practices such as keeping main content before the sidebar, utilizing WAI-ARIA landmark roles for users with disabilities to easily navigate your site, et cetera.

    Most of the true performance boosts will be controlled post purchase on the user’s end with a combination of a good hosting provider and things like browser caching, image compression, CDNs, and more. We even provide a detailed tutorial in our member area about some of the many things users can do to their sites post purchase that will help with this.

    If you would like to discuss any of this further, a member of our development team will be happy to assist in our forum.

    Cheers!

  3. J.Duncan - Paperless Creations
    J.Duncan - Paperless Creations August 13, 2014 at 18:31 | | Reply

    I love the way X looks, however with no developer license I can’t justify using it for our business. I’d prefer not to have to purchase a new copy on themeforest every time we use it for a client. This is why I prefer Divi over X.

  4. Themeco
    Themeco August 13, 2014 at 19:31 | | Reply

    Hi J,

    Thank-you for the kind words! There are definitely a couple different pricing models out there, however we feel the one-time investment per license is a good model for several reasons. 1) There are no recurring fees for you as a buyer 2) The future purchases allow for continued development (over time “unlimited” usage has a tendency to cause either the provider to stop providing support/future development as no new revenue is coming in to be able to support the ongoing costs of customer support and feature development). This is why most developer licenses are recurring so that revenue is there whereas when using X you only pay for what you need, when you need it. 3) We feel this is a reasonable investment for the product, support, and resources provided given that each client is ultimately paying significantly higher for the finished product.

    Hopefully this helps provide a little more context into the single use vs. unlimited use as each has their own unique considerations.

    Cheers!

  5. Derp undefined
    Derp undefined August 14, 2014 at 02:46 | | Reply

    Perhaps it’s the referral link that brings suspicion of a biased viewpoint or the fact that there are sponsored posts about X on other popular webdev blogs. Either way I took a 2nd look at X. I can appreciate the appeal of a gazillion features, my personal preference is to separate features like SEO. It makes finding issues much easier and only use those that I choose usually means a smaller footprint.

    1. Themeco
      Themeco August 14, 2014 at 06:46 | | Reply

      Hi Derp,

      To clarify, the SEO features outlined above were meant to explain some of the best practices that were followed with regards to development of X (which can play a part in optimization for search engines). When it comes to properly managing on-site SEO, like most themes, we recommend the use of a SEO plugin like Yoast or All In One SEO Pack. We also feel it is important to separate as much functionality out of the theme as possible and into plugins where it should be. For example, our Shortcodes are included as a separate plugin as well as other unique functionality in the theme so as to keep the theme itself lean and organized.

  6. Christopher Anderton
    Christopher Anderton August 29, 2014 at 06:00 | | Reply

    Well. The link to the theme is a referal link. It should be mentioned.
    I’ve heard the same stories about themes like this before. Almost everytime i was ending up cleaning up bloat in the code (and fixing potential security threats). However, i do not say this about this theme, it would be unfair when i don’t even tried it.

    But it’s good to hear that the theme developers are separating theme space and plug-in space.

    But as many time before. No GPL. No Disco.

  7. Frank
    Frank September 11, 2014 at 08:27 | | Reply

    Awesome, thanks for sharing these post.

  8. Intently Digital (@intentlydigital)

    Happened across this post, read the comments, and couldn’t resist replying.

    I’ve used the X theme a few times and I’m about to launch the new version of my own agency’s site on it.

    In case any potential customers are concerned about these comments, don’t be. Go ahead and buy it and you’ll be glad you did.

    I host with WPEngine and use their caching and CDN services, combined with the Better WordPress Minify plugin. I also reduce the file size of all images manually (used to use WP Smush It but it slowed down my admin dashboard).

    With that very simple (and let’s be honest, very affordable) set up your site will load fast and be a pleasure to work on. X Theme’s knowledgbase (with LOADS of detailed videos, articles, step-by-steps etc) and really responsive support forums are as awesome as their product is.

    Not an affiliate and paid with my own money. All $63 dollars of it…I’m sorry but you think that’s too expensive I’d hate to be your kid at Christmas!

  9. zozothemes
    zozothemes October 6, 2016 at 02:43 | | Reply

    Nice work done, Good Luck

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